DMT and the explanation of life
September 16, 2009 1:57:01 AM UTC Post #1

I could have posted this a few places but I thought it was far to interesting not to get it's own thread.
This is a clip from a talk radio show who had comedian Joe Rogan as a guest. A caller asks him about a drug, DMT, and he goes on explaining his trip and also sharing what the experiences have taught him. I thought his explanation on life was extremely accurate, it's exactly how I view life and our existence.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...eoid=1343056044
Discuss.


March 06, 2007 12:37:38 PM UTC Post #1

"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Guess which great French philosopher said that.

March 06, 2007 12:41:39 PM UTC Post #2

Lol, Eric Cantona.

March 06, 2007 9:02:56 AM UTC Post #3

QUOTE(Nathan @ Mar 5 2007, 06:16 PM) [snapback]356705[/snapback]I'd read it in French if I was fluent in the language. Many English translations can sometimes be a bit off (i.e. many of Dostoevsky's works and Camus' The Stranger). Nonetheless, I do think the particular translation I read of Nausea was quite decent.
Albert Camus is also another great french writer. My french teacher, who made us study on that book, is a big fan of Sartre, and met him in a press conferance a little time before his death.
Oh it's more like, he was being "followed by lobster".

March 05, 2007 7:36:33 PM UTC Post #4

No new ground is broken, of course. It's just a nice little explanation of what's obvious to some of us. The thought of us just being a complex form of life, tricked by our own intelligence to think we're something special. When it's really just sophisticated ways to drive procreation and in effect making life more enjoyable, making the primal breeding process more meaningful and desired.

March 05, 2007 3:22:27 PM UTC Post #5

There is no way a drug or natural chemical can actually reveal the explanation of life.
It's just a culmination of his perspective on life compiled into a psychedelic trip. Nothing he said really should be taken seriously.

March 05, 2007 2:35:36 PM UTC Post #6

QUOTE(Nathan @ Feb 26 2007, 01:50 AM) [snapback]353384[/snapback]I'm an existentialist and one of of the foremost philosophers of the movement (Jean-Paul Sartre) wrote his most acclaimed novel after a single mescaline trip. This is an area I think that psychedelic drugs certainly have their merit, but a stigma is placed on them because so many people do it to look at the walls and see cartoons.
Ah yes I've studied on parts of that book in the original language.
He was walking in the streets with lobsters.

March 05, 2007 5:16:09 PM UTC Post #7

QUOTE(Grimfurg the Mighty @ Mar 5 2007, 02:35 PM) [snapback]356619[/snapback]Ah yes I've studied on parts of that book in the original language.
He was walking in the streets with lobsters.
I'd read it in French if I was fluent in the language. Many English translations can sometimes be a bit off (i.e. many of Dostoevsky's works and Camus' The Stranger). Nonetheless, I do think the particular translation I read of Nausea was quite decent.
QUOTEThere is no way a drug or natural chemical can actually reveal the explanation of life.
It's just a culmination of his perspective on life compiled into a psychedelic trip. Nothing he said really should be taken seriously.
Well obviously no drug can reveal some all-encompassing "explanation of life," but for individuals such as myself, that is a concept that is not universal at all. The individual may elect to discover his/her own meaning in life. Psychadelics, in the right setting and state of mind, can greatly add to this process. Substances such as LSD and mescaline don't have to be taken solely for an immature session designed to see cartoons on the wall for eight hours.
I've been focusing mostly on the drug aspect, because I think that's more worthy of attention given the vast majority of uninformed or even misinformed opinions that label substances like DMT as completely without worth or merit. His actual opinions on life aren't important to me because absolutely no new ground is broken.

February 25, 2007 10:59:25 PM UTC Post #8

Its interesting Ill give it that.
However, when I take strong drugs, psychadelic drugs whatever, even smoking too much pot, I have anxiety attacks. Yet when I dream, I do not, and my dream memory is actually quite good, so according to his theory, that doesn't make much sense.

February 25, 2007 11:22:12 PM UTC Post #9

Per-sleep you usually have 5-6 different dreams. So i doubt you remember them all.
It makes sense to me.
Now I want to try DMT.

February 25, 2007 11:22:47 PM UTC Post #10

I never remember my dreams when i wake up...shame that

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