i know its early days (having only heard 2 songs), but what does everyone think of the solos so far?
i may well be in the minority here, but i honestly think that they're the two worst solos trivium have ever played. imo they have absolutely no taste whatsoever. i really hope that theres a bit more thought gone into some of the other solos on the record.
rant over opinions?

They're not the worst 2 solos ever... But I'm pretty disappointed so far tbh. Technical, yes, but hardly imaginitive. IMO they've yet to match what they did on In The Fire. Only major downsides to otherwise fantastic songs. Can't wait for the rest of the album.

I feel these 2 solo's are very well thought out and brilliant from not only a musicians stand point but that of an artist. I look at all solo's and how they create a vibe the story of the song is trying to portray through musical imagery.
Kirisute Gomen - Corey's solo's usually lack feeling, but in this solo the way he builds up the emotion with drums rhythm is just astonishing. The way they have the switch goes from Corey's build up, then a whammy dive, while Matt's intro to his solo is a depressed whammy with tremolo picking and wah with the release... Just brilliant! You get the sound of a plane diving down for the kill, THEN Matt's solo starts, the way he's starting to solo, is almost like painting out a beautiful story in your head. Just listen to the way the backing riff's rhythm changes up, and you'll understand just how good they are getting as musicians. Then when he build's up to the same build up riff Corey's build up was, Matt backs off so that it doesn't over build up so the climax riff + solo can give you the blending of transitions. Looking at the story and atmosphere of this song, the solo fit's PERFECT, nothing else would have made sense. To me, the song is about taking the head of the music industry and putting yourself in complete control, by not being lead to be what everyone wants them to be. I say it fit's well.
Into the Mouth of Hell We March - Imagine crashing onto the beaches of hell and then you're pushed down by a storm of hellions and other failures of life, marching down the throat of hell. Legions of hells minions pushing and slashing at you with their weaponry, forcing you down the spiral of death alongside thousands of others. That's what I see while listening to the solo. I love how artistic they are getting with their imagery, through both the sense of music and poetry.

QUOTE(Sgt. Serious @ Aug 13 2008, 07:25 PM) [snapback]445878[/snapback]IMO they've yet to match what they did on In The Fire.
I highly doubt they will ever match that. On that song they are playing a solo on a Mercyful Fate/King Diamond song, not a Trivium song, and it's amazing. You can't compare that sort of solo to a Trivium solo.
I think the solo in KG is awesome though. Especially the first note of the second leg comes in, which sounds like a jet... Sounds like fucking Megadeth

I'm not sure what I think of the solo in 'Into The Mouth of Hell (We March)', but the one in 'Kirisute Gomen' is freakin' awesome if you ask me..! Especially Matt's part of that solo (so I largely agree with Podgie and m1tsu)...
Anyway, I kinda always dig Matt's solos more; he's more musically educated than Corey and his stuff always sounds more... together, connected, concrete, coherent yet colorful enough, diverse. I'm not suggesting that Corey's a bad guitar player, Hell no! But it is very interesting (again, to me personally) that they're different in style and overall musical thinking. They mutually complete - Corey is wild, spontaneous (a better improvisor, I'd say), Matt's the planner, thinker.
God, I love this band!
P.S. That would explain the 5-inch long tattoo on my right upper arm... lol

QUOTE(Podgie @ Aug 13 2008, 04:46 PM) [snapback]445891[/snapback]I highly doubt they will ever match that. On that song they are playing a solo on a Mercyful Fate/King Diamond song, not a Trivium song, and it's amazing. You can't compare that sort of solo to a Trivium solo.
Of course you can, its from the same guitarists! That solo would easily have fit into a number of Trivium songs. The difference is that the In The Fire solo seemed to have some real thought put into it, whereas most of their other solos, though-out or not, sound like they're almost mindless shred. Obviously they're hugely technical... But a greater sense of structure and melody would be nice. Take a look at Dimebag's solos. Wonderfully technical but also fantastically melodic. My favourite type of solo is one that has speed and melody, one that you could hum along to if you want. Look at the solos in Cemetery Gates, Sweet Child O' Mine, Slither, In The Fire, Breath Life etc...

From a musician's standpoint the solos aren't very difficult at all; I mean I learned Corey's solo in Kirisute Gomen in like 20 mins. But the thing is they added a wah pedal into the mix and it sounds alot better. Also I think the solos in Kirisute Gomen are perfect. The solos have a diminished and minor sound to them which fits well.

Let's hope your nick doesn't become a reality eh.

" I love how artistic they are getting with their imagery, through both the sense of music and poetry."
this is exactly why I fucking love this band, as u might see with my previous posts. the way they tell a story with the music is fuckin awesome. the solos in ..mouth of hell.... perfectly describe the vibe of the song. like marching into hell and everything being chaotic and crazy and shit. they even have a kind of haunting effect. and the fucking lyrics. man I could totally relate. I'm totally in fucking love with this band in a non gay way. I'm not afraid to admit I actually cried when listening to the song along with the lyrics. I pictured my relationship with my girlfriend being our ship going through a hellish storm bcuz of bullshit reasons. when the " we crawl out form the wreckage part" started I got so fuckin emotional. I felt as though it perfectly described the way me and my gf were ending up. our relationship is going to shit and after listeing to the song I realized I need to change and as the songs says " make ur way out of the grave" and I will pour all myself into our relationship so it won't end up in fucking hell. fuck I love this song and am desperately waiting for the album.

QUOTE(m1tsu @ Aug 13 2008, 09:25 PM) [snapback]445890[/snapback]I feel these 2 solo's are very well thought out and brilliant from not only a musicians stand point but that of an artist. I look at all solo's and how they create a vibe the story of the song is trying to portray through musical imagery.
Kirisute Gomen - Corey's solo's usually lack feeling, but in this solo the way he builds up the emotion with drums rhythm is just astonishing. The way they have the switch goes from Corey's build up, then a whammy dive, while Matt's intro to his solo is a depressed whammy with tremolo picking and wah with the release... Just brilliant! You get the sound of a plane diving down for the kill, THEN Matt's solo starts, the way he's starting to solo, is almost like painting out a beautiful story in your head. Just listen to the way the backing riff's rhythm changes up, and you'll understand just how good they are getting as musicians. Then when he build's up to the same build up riff Corey's build up was, Matt backs off so that it doesn't over build up so the climax riff + solo can give you the blending of transitions. Looking at the story and atmosphere of this song, the solo fit's PERFECT, nothing else would have made sense. To me, the song is about taking the head of the music industry and putting yourself in complete control, by not being lead to be what everyone wants them to be. I say it fit's well.
Into the Mouth of Hell We March - Imagine crashing onto the beaches of hell and then you're pushed down by a storm of hellions and other failures of life, marching down the throat of hell. Legions of hells minions pushing and slashing at you with their weaponry, forcing you down the spiral of death alongside thousands of others. That's what I see while listening to the solo. I love how artistic they are getting with their imagery, through both the sense of music and poetry.
lol I think youre vastly over-analysing/rating it. if someone doesnt like a solo and thinks it lacks feeling and just sounds too technical, theyre not wrong. im a musician and i too am dissapointed by the dodgy solos. If the solos were up to the standard of the songs i think these two would be real masterpieces
i just think your post is a little bit stretchy tbh. i'll write a description of the raining blood solo:
Before the solo starts theres a massive, strong wall of menacing guitars, waiting to be broken free. The solo symbolizes freedom and the sudden outbust resembles desperation. The off-key notes go up and down the fret-board menacingly, creating imagery; chaos and destruction. It relates heavily to the song itself, as if the solo is the raining blood. As the solo progresses the rhythm accompyaning it changes key and rapidly moves in and out not outstaying it's welcome. As the solo climaxes, the drums start to slow but the solo keeps going, as if it's in pain. I imagine the solo as fire and it suddenly just stops. Symbolizing an apocalypse.

Slayer?