Hello, I'm sort of new to this forum and before I begin my first post I'd like to say a few words about me. I'm a 16 year old teen from Medford Oregon and I like all forms of rock. That being said I'd like to continue with the topic.
When you think of your standard metal band the first thing that comes to mind isn't their thoughtful lyrics, of course not. It's the insane guitar, the bad ass drummer, or the crazy ass vocals. But when it comes to trivium things are different, in addition to your typical band layout (great drummer, guitarist, etc) you have another level. Lyrics.
Now I may be reading to much into the lyrics of some of the songs, seeing as none of my friends agree with me when I say that Trivium's lyrics wern't meant to be taken at face value, but am I really?
Lets take a simple song that seems to be pretty straight forward: "The World Can't Tear Us Apart", and try to think about it differently that you did originally.
I was so empty
Self loathing
Before you awoke me
Lived in transgression
Feasted sin
Destroying all I stood for
* This first verse could mean a meraid of things; What was it that woke him up from his apathy? God? A person? A girl? Or does it not matter? do we really need to know who/what this person is to understand the song?
A world with spreading disease
Legs up for infidelity
They force feed of their stiffened sickness
They promised hiding their rings
To suck down some of the things
That cheat this world into lovelessness
* verse two. In this verse things are on a broader scale "a WORLD of spreading disease" Is he referring to a personal world? Or the world as a whole?
All the pain in this world won't stop us now
For we have each other
All the hate in this world can't tear us apart
This love is forever
* Who is "us"? Two lovers? a group of people? maybe the worlds love?
In arms we'll turn away
From their ways
We'll live like no other
Together we're hope
Absolute
The only thing that matters
* Leaving the norm to peruse what they perceive as "the rightus path".
General song notes:
1. In the song it is never stated that the song is referring to two people.
2. Love doesn't need to be between TWO people.
3. The second line in the song almost seems out of place, not referring to any ONE person inparticular.

So anyway thats it. I've really do like to look into song lyrics in different ways, and try to dicier what it could mean. I just thought I'd share my thoughts with all of you people as well.
Anyway Thanks for reading and I will be looking forward to replies!
P.S. please excuse the spelling.

QUOTE(KrazyLegs @ Jul 12 2007, 03:05 AM) [snapback]385527[/snapback]Yes, verry small. I'd almost call it a mouse's ass.
I would be inclined to agree with your thinking.

I see.
What's your favorite Trivium song?

Yes, verry small. I'd almost call it a mouse's ass.

QUOTE(Suffocating Sight @ Jul 10 2007, 02:55 PM) [snapback]385375[/snapback]I read it just didnt post..
We'll thank you for reading it, but you still gave a quite small "rat's ass". lol

I read it just didnt post..

I feel like a bit of an ass for just now noticing this, but i think we're the only 2 that give a rat's ass about this thread...

QUOTE(KrazyLegs @ Jul 9 2007, 02:25 AM) [snapback]385253[/snapback]Ok, i'll try to explain it. When Megadeth originally released A Tout La Monde, it was supposed to be an elegey (i think i spelled that right) for Dave's mother. They recently released another version that song on the United Abominations cd (a largely political album). They kept the same lyrics, they just upped the tempo and got Christina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil to sing a few lines on it. Basically, I was trying to say that labeling The World Can't Tear Us Apart as a song with a social message just because the rest of The Crusade had that vibe would be like calling a song written for a dead woman a political anthem just because the rest of the cd was political.
I dont' know if that helps you, but I tried. And you're right, too. You have to look at things from different perspectives to get the full effect sometimes.
I infered a similir story from you prevous post lol.
But I think its good to think about songs in different ways. And thats what I was trying to do with this post.

Ok, i'll try to explain it. When Megadeth originally released A Tout La Monde, it was supposed to be an elegey (i think i spelled that right) for Dave's mother. They recently released another version that song on the United Abominations cd (a largely political album). They kept the same lyrics, they just upped the tempo and got Christina Scabbia from Lacuna Coil to sing a few lines on it. Basically, I was trying to say that labeling The World Can't Tear Us Apart as a song with a social message just because the rest of The Crusade had that vibe would be like calling a song written for a dead woman a political anthem just because the rest of the cd was political.
I dont' know if that helps you, but I tried. And you're right, too. You have to look at things from different perspectives to get the full effect sometimes.

QUOTE(KrazyLegs @ Jul 8 2007, 04:04 AM) [snapback]385136[/snapback]I haven't really listened to or read lyrics to the whole album yet, so I wouldn't know its main theme. I guess it would make a little more sense, as far as the CD as a whole is concerned, if the song were more than a love ballad. But, at the same time, that would be like saying the newer version of "A Tout La Monde" has some sort of political meaning because the rest of United Abominations is very political. Again, we come back to the listeners finding thier own meaning in the words.
Your song reference is lost on me, but I understand what your trying to say. I guess the important thing is to try to find your own meaning in the song.

I haven't really listened to or read lyrics to the whole album yet, so I wouldn't know its main theme. I guess it would make a little more sense, as far as the CD as a whole is concerned, if the song were more than a love ballad. But, at the same time, that would be like saying the newer version of "A Tout La Monde" has some sort of political meaning because the rest of United Abominations is very political. Again, we come back to the listeners finding thier own meaning in the words.