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QUOTE(mabmab @ Oct 7 2008, 06:21 AM) [snapback]452926[/snapback]damn motherfucker.you have alot of time on ypur hands...ALOT
Errrr not really lol. i just watched the dvd and was typing it out at the same time.. so if u clasify 53 minutes as alot of time i guess you are right.
I hadn't heard much about the dvd on here so i thought id post a review. just trying to help =)
p.s.. i also noticed some samples of songs i didnt recognise on the dvd, must have been from the 3rd original song they didnt use. They talk about it on the dvd and choose to cut it down to 2 b sides and a cover.
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Here Is My review / quide, Of the DVD that came with the special edition of the album. first off, the basics...
Dvd starts with a riff from the song Shogun and repeats about 15 seconds of it over and over, There are 2 options to choose from,
"The Making Of Shogun" and "Shogun - The Riffs"
MAKING OF: 52:56
I was abit dissapointed by the opening as i it was basically episode 1 of the making of vids from online, and i thought it was going to continue like this throughout the whole thing, thankfully i was wrong. A Better introduction to the making of would have been an interview with the band talking about the begginning of the album and the roots from which is was born. But they do this to an extent by saying they are making the album in Nashville. Although im not quite sure how geographical location alters the studio and sound but yeh. The band appears to like Nashville alot But the making of has a light intro about the band talking about the country song they made called "my dog" its pretty funny lol.
After 5:15 the true begginning of the making of, its much like Episode 2 of the making of vignettes.
After 7 minutes we start with trakcing drums, travis talking about how he wants to keep peoples heads banging ect. Its less a "making of" and more like a travis interview. drums took 6 days on this album, the crusade took 2.5 days and ascendenacy was 4 days. He does a good british accent on one clip lol. the only clip of a making of part is from the intro to insurrection. Drummer of the night =)
12 minutes in and Paulo tells us how to make an english muffin =) random! Now the guitars start. The start with Into The Mouth of Hell first, they need to get the whole song done for the Madden game. but this is quickly interupted by the vocals, which sound awesome btw matt =) He talks about having to hold his stomach in to achieve a better sound. He talks about how he likes Rob Flyn vocals. He says he doesnt do the screams live anymore but both corey and paulo want him to.. hence why he is in some live vids =) Matt has really good super clean vocals in these clips. Most notably in Shogun. (best song by far) Imo they should have alot more acousitcal moments with clean vocals in the songs. 23 minutes and we're still in the song SHOGUN, they keep talking about it being a 13 minute song but its actually 11:21? so... oki then. Still the best song on the album and trivium shouldnt be scared to do more songs like this on the next album. Which im guessing will be self titled.
24 minutes in we start talking about Coreys solos and how particular he is about them.
31 minutes and a very odd moment happens. Matt tells us how he never thought that chorus' have the titles of the songs in them =S wtf? its the most obvious thing ever and apparantly he's only jsut realised it. makes him seem a lil dumb but i know he's not he's just thinking about songs in a different way
33 minutes in and the band , or mainly travis has a hissy fit over having to record more drums. boo-hoo seems very silly and the making of going into a soap opera like moment (35 minutes) with orchestral "sad" music playing with the band talking about how hard it is for them out here... o.O kay then...
37 minutes in and they are discussing b-sides (i can understand why they arnt on the album they are no where near as good and dont fit in. just my opinion, i know many of u love the "death metal" vocals matt does. its impressive but its no Michael Akerfeldt.
43 minutes in and we are looking at Throes Of Perdition and paulo came up with the intro and apparantly recorded it on the album? but then we see corey doing it so im unsure.
46 minutes in and nymphomaniac paulo shows us his collages of cock and butt hole faces lol. random
50 minutes in we are doing solos and talking about how well the album came out. i agree for the most part.
Closing thoughts.... i would have prefered a more structured documentary, where an idea for the album, finding a studio, setting up, reheasing, recording, day by day, everything then mixing, artwork, photoshoots, mastering ect... but its a pretty good dvd.
SHOGUN - THE RIFFS
2 parts, corey and matt, and then paulo.
coreys part is very good and matt often makes some mistakes, perhaps this part of the dvd was rushed but it is none the less a pretty cool feature =)
Closing thoughts, awesome album, and a nice dvd package, but could have been better. the best part is watching matts vocals i think. i'd rate Opeths dvd "making of deliverance and damnation" the best ive seen and the God Forbid one from special edition of Constitution of treason is a little better.
I hope the next trivium album has about 8-10 songs.. but with an instrumental again (15 minutes)!!! and 2 songs like Shogun, long (over 10 mins each) and with each normal song including heavy and mellow parts and being no shorter than 6 minutes... e.g
Album 5: Self Titled
1. Long Intro Into Heavy Song - 8 mins
2. Heavy Song - 6 mins
3. Epic Prog Song 1 - 12 mins
4. Heavy Song - 6 mins
5. Mellow / Heavy Song - 7 mins
6. Epic Prog Song 2 - 12 mins
7. Mellow / Heavy Song - 7 mins
8. Instrumental - 15 mins
73 mins total
I've been able to get the intro music used for triviums current tour (Divinity I - FF7-AC) and i've made a single MP3 of this with Entrance edited on it. However, i've always thought that Entrance needed a second chorus added on the end, so i added that too... my editing skills arn't exactly professionaly done, i was using sound recorder for god sake... lol, but it sounds pretty good to me, it clocks in at 8:21 long. just wondering if i can post it here for other people to listen to and/or give opinions on...?
I've also made an extended edition of the album featuring the non album tracks Vengeance and Broken One and heres how it goes...
1. Entrance Of The Conflagration (8:21 Extended Version)
3. Broken One
6. Anthem (We Are The Fire)
8. Becoming The Dragon
9. And Sadness Will Sear
10. To The Rats
11. The World Can;t Tear Us Apart
12. Tread The Floods
13. Contempt Breeds Contamination
14. The Rising
15. The Crusade
The album clocks in at 71:30 minutes long.
If This were to be the special edition version of The Crusade, im sure that the classical intro would be included as a seperate song and then lead into track 2.. "Entrance" . but for the purposes of this forum i simply made it into 1 song.
i've heard that its a song from Advent Children ?
if so, what song is it? because i was going to make a CD to take around with me and keep my first day cover version untouched
and i was going to make the songs a different order too..
1. (Intro) Advent Children Song (if thats wat it is...)
then add the 2 demo songs on the end.
well yeh... its bound to happen! this is gonna be the hottest record of 2006! and they must make a special edition! perhaps with another DVD (videos, making of, live performances)
heres my thoughts!
3. Entrance Of The Conflagration
4. Anthem (We Are The Fire)
6. And Sadness Will Sear
7. Becoming The Dragon
8. To The Rats
9. This World Can't Tear Us Apart
10. Tread The Floods
11. Contempt Breeds Contamination
12. The Rising
13. The Crusade (Instrumental)
15. Broken One
16. The Storm (2007 Remaster)
17. The Sworn (2007 Remaster)
Personally i'd love to see those tracks remastered the storm is one of my fav Trivium songs of all time and The sworn is awesome to, id love to hear them with the new Vocals and better quality guitars.
Trivium fans are advised to catch tonight's Mike Davies Rock Show on BBC Radio 1. In addition to being interviewed and co-presenting the program, the band will be talking listeners through each track of their forthcoming album, The Crusade, due October 10.